I think this is officially my new favorite! What is up with these commercials and t.v. shows anyway? If I had a husband that stupid, I'd get divorced and stay single for the rest of my days. Are people's husbands really this dumb?! I can't possibly imagine it. Or perhaps the rise in divorce rates is because they really are this dumb!! *gasp* Oh, the horror.
(click here if you can't see the video.)
- At Sat Aug 01, 02:47:00 AM Danny said...
I really am not trying to sound mean when I say this but welcome to what men have been complaining about for YEARS. Its always bothered me how much women like to go on and on about how men are portrayed as the paragons of perfection and women as flawed while this kind of stuff has been on tv (well I can say things are better since some are at least willing to pay the odd bit of lip service followed by declaring that women have it worse). Sarah here may have only been using ads from the last 3 years or so but this kind of male-bashing dates back decades.
- At Sat Aug 01, 05:55:00 PM frau sally benz said...
You don't sound mean at all! I definitely agree that this has been a problem for a long time. I don't watch much tv and I never watch commercials, but even I have noticed this as a growing trend.
I do have a problem with the way some feminists bring it up. Jessica Valenti talks about it in one of her books (I believe it's the Stud/Slut one) but then says it hurts women and sort of totally bypasses the fact that this is primarily about men. I forget exactly how she puts it, but it's basically like what intelligent, confident woman would be with an idiot like that. Which... ok... fine, make that point. But that's kind of besides the point, no? The problem still remains that all of these annoying stereotypes about men need to go.
- At Mon Aug 03, 06:24:00 PM Danny said...
Question Sally. I know you are not the only feminist that is a big fan of her video posts. As far as I can tell you are the only one talking about this particular one. Perhaps they are trying to think of a way to do a post that would turn attention away from how husbands are portrayed and onto how women are the real victims for marrying such men...
- At Tue Aug 04, 11:55:00 AM frau sally benz said...
Aw Danny, play nice! I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I do think more should be said about this video than just watching it for laughs. It really does point to a disturbing trend, and people are always saying that feminism is for men too, so this could back up that claim.
- At Tue Aug 04, 06:54:00 PM Danny said...
It really does point to a disturbing trend, and people are always saying that feminism is for men too, so this could back up that claim.
Don't get me wrong I like to give people the benefit of the doubt as well and in fact I wouldn't be so cynical if I hadn't already been proven right many times before. And it will take more than feminists paying a bit of lip service with a "Patriarchy hurts men too." and then going on to turning the situation into somehow women being the victims of goofy husband portrayals.
I'm sorry Sally but you can't claim to be helping a group out but only mention said group when it benefits your own group.
- At Tue Aug 04, 09:40:00 PM frau sally benz said...
No, I agree with you Danny. My point in saying that about how feminism hurts men too is to genuinely point out that this is hurting men. If men and women are going to work together to combat stereotypes, then we need to address who is really targeted in cases like these.
I don't think it's fair to shift the focus back to women. I don't think there's anything wrong with stating the full extent of the problem, sort of the way you would on a paper or something. So saying that it indirectly affects how women are seen as well is fine, but the conversation needs to be brought back to how men are affected. It's men who are being portrayed this way and focusing back on women is just not fair.